tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post6557345064167555083..comments2008-03-04T18:38:18.217-06:00Flotsam Mediahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07399275990150889524noreply@blogger.comBlogger75125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-56562322788054985082008-03-04T18:38:00.000-06:002008-03-04T18:38:00.000-06:00Wonderful blog! Not to ruin the tone by being too serious, i just couldn't help but think the reason that so few African-Americans are in the top of the Grit Lists is that they are held to a higher standard of talent than whites or latinos. For example, poor Horace Clarke, who was perhaps the BEST player on those horrible mid-sixties Yankee teams, was jettisoned after only eight years. If he were white, he might have been kept around for another eight years to pad his pension and his grittyness totals. Perhaps someday, when the world is a better place, all races and creeds will be represented on lists of no-talents, not just on lists of superachievers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-58357968740014893162008-01-07T13:08:00.000-06:002008-01-07T13:08:00.000-06:00This is freaking brilliant. -jJustinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07697776280178146413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-17420786348591086322008-01-04T07:54:00.000-06:002008-01-04T07:54:00.000-06:00Chuck D., I think I love you.<BR/><BR/>Next, could I have a statistical analysis of "gutty" and "gutsy," what the difference between the two is, and which should be applied to which players?<BR/><BR/>You rule.<BR/><BR/>LauraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-44649776324856478902008-01-01T16:48:00.000-06:002008-01-01T16:48:00.000-06:00However, voice-over is not an art.<BR/><BR/>_______________________________<BR/><BR/>Then why am I a member of the Screen Actors Guild and AFTRA?<BR/><BR/>Voice-Over performers are artists, just as any other creative performer.<BR/><BR/>When you learn to deliver a 30 second spot so that your voice decays out at 29.5 on the button, let me know what you'd prefer to be called.Danielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00966499518250845494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-68321056608520876122008-01-01T12:56:00.000-06:002008-01-01T12:56:00.000-06:00Simply awesome. Strong work. Still, she Don Baylor thing is a little hard to explain. Perhaps a modifier (XDB = except for Don Baylor) can be added to the equation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-54286020027003997892007-12-31T14:13:00.000-06:002007-12-31T14:13:00.000-06:00To reuse a word that several have, accurately, used: brilliant. The style is well-balanced. The litmus test: enjoyable to read.<BR/><BR/>You've come a long way.MattsDadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15167114107555664169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-80904252860304156562007-12-30T18:27:00.000-06:002007-12-30T18:27:00.000-06:001. how is aaron rowand not on the list?<BR/>2. i always thought GRIT should be some formula like: amount of dirt/blood on uniform X brightness of player's skin = GRIT. i think skin color should be factored in somehow.<BR/><BR/>great article.Travis G.http://www.blogger.com/profile/17451410553795367839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-88290893429328939722007-12-29T23:59:00.000-06:002007-12-29T23:59:00.000-06:00Oh Jesus. Thank you so much.jeff reed's shorn pubisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-12683838499526486092007-12-28T10:39:00.000-06:002007-12-28T10:39:00.000-06:00This article is witty and funny and I'd agree that most of the guys listed by this formula are donkey players... but get Biggio off this fucking list. He doesn't belong. Career spanning multiple decades, several above average OPS+ years, and he was also a steady defensive player.<BR/><BR/>Your formula puts too much weight on the HBP stat. Re-weight it and Biggio will go away and more crap will appear.LionelHutz057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-82420219707338623192007-12-26T15:42:00.000-06:002007-12-26T15:42:00.000-06:00Outstanding.<BR/><BR/>I guess this means that when Harold Reynolds comments on a player's grittiness, we should listen, because Harold knows whereof he speaks.zlionsfanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02966540737106797756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-76710955090869786042007-12-26T14:46:00.000-06:002007-12-26T14:46:00.000-06:00Phenomenal. I always thought "grit" was a synonym for "sucky baseball player who's loved by the media because he's a nice guy and his uniform's dirty" (see Eckstein, David; Nixon, Trot; Erstad, Darin) but this proves that there's so much more in life that remains a mystery.David Sucksteinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-15417795681441238482007-12-26T13:20:00.000-06:002007-12-26T13:20:00.000-06:00For everyone who's getting loaded up on some warm Dr. Pepper in regards to the over-valuation of HBP: chill out. I've been hard at work on a solution, but I've some Holiday commitments have delayed it. New numbers and stuff will be forthcoming in the near future.ChuckDickenshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11709571849561444523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-47909444999513852082007-12-26T12:54:00.000-06:002007-12-26T12:54:00.000-06:00Personal attacks aside, the inclusion of HBP is indeed problematic, as shown by the rankings of Biggio and Baylor, both of whom are/were talented, and one of whom (guess who) was doing a lot of blow off field, and was known for lollygagging on the field. Since crowding the plate for good players enables them to reach the outside pitch, why not weight the HBP by the inverse of the number of opposite field hits? This would elevate "gritty" players who couldn't take a ball the other way if there was a typhoon blowing that direction.The Frito Punditohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08886903543570411546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-70882993852428383172007-12-26T11:38:00.000-06:002007-12-26T11:38:00.000-06:00This is the greatest post of 2007, hands down.<BR/><BR/>I truly think fielding stats will need to be considered if you plan on tweaking GRIT in the future. Perhaps that will knock down Baylor a bit as he did a lot of DH-ing.Chip Wesleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05718472591217612598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-82449903952823751802007-12-26T08:19:00.000-06:002007-12-26T08:19:00.000-06:00The only problem I see with this list is the absence of Ozzie Guillen.<BR/><BR/>We all know that he's one of the grittiest players of all time, yet he doesn't appear on this stat.<BR/><BR/>Apparently his qualities were too intangible to be quantified.Joehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14995707376370801094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-35887770000036541502007-12-26T08:16:00.000-06:002007-12-26T08:16:00.000-06:00Awesome. Just awesome. I hope you don't mind if I link to this everywhere I see fit.Acthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12502115000673054868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-25455093257782613732007-12-24T11:43:00.000-06:002007-12-24T11:43:00.000-06:00Reminds me of the paper I wrote for my research methods course.Howardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15475321135139124183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-30409099323576091712007-12-23T22:51:00.000-06:002007-12-23T22:51:00.000-06:00I demand a re-count! Where is Mark Lemke? Even his face is gritty.Bobby Coxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-36437637735848074502007-12-23T20:32:00.000-06:002007-12-23T20:32:00.000-06:00I definitely see a correlation between GRIT and height. Might be an additional factor to consider. And I can't believe you don't metion Nick Punto when you discuss sliding into first base - he's the expert chosen to be featured in the GRIT instructional video.Rhubarb_Runnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-74305889617965101082007-12-23T20:22:00.000-06:002007-12-23T20:22:00.000-06:00Fire Joe Morgan sent me over here and it was certainly worth it. I can't wait to see GRIT at the top of a statistics spread someday next to VORP.Geoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17143312272425930106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-82295823360146903072007-12-23T13:53:00.000-06:002007-12-23T13:53:00.000-06:00dudes.... classico. loves it.<BR/><BR/>hope you don't mind that I discussed it over on my bloggity - with all due credit, of course. I'm simply jealous I didn't write this myself.<BR/><BR/>http://yankees-chick.blogspot.com/2007/12/yankees-chick-is-gritty-gal-herself.htmlYankees Chickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07567215024716280724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-64143930295872431242007-12-23T11:37:00.000-06:002007-12-23T11:37:00.000-06:00That thing was too long for me to read, but, judgin' from the comments, I guess it was pretty danged good. I do think those two dustbuckets that are gettin' all huffy need to settle their dispute like growned-up men. I'm talkin' about meetin' each other in a cheap hotel room and havin' a good old-fashioned peckerfight. I'd pay decent money to watch a tubby voice-over artist (whatever that is) try to out-boner some other ol' boy that may or may not have a jorb.Jonny Dave Floydhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04004584892341942571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-38004141054015195392007-12-23T10:24:00.000-06:002007-12-23T10:24:00.000-06:00I will cop to the shithead part, but I have never licked an ass.<BR/><BR/>I guess I stand corrected on your marital/living status. I just assumed that somebody who get so angry about a stat that is pretty clearly satirical (and appears on a humor site) would have to be some sort of lifeless loser who embodies the classic stereotype of the basement-dwelling, mom-living, internet messageboard know-it-all dipshit. Again, I stand corrected.<BR/><BR/>However, voice-over is not an art.CTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-41402244177807832882007-12-23T09:58:00.000-06:002007-12-23T09:58:00.000-06:00If you look Top 50 Gritty Seasons' list, you'd be hard pressed to conjure up any details of that players particulars in that year. <BR/><BR/>But for the Least Gritty seasons' list, the players stats are almost recite-able. <BR/><BR/>Why? Because players without grit do it for the fame and fortune, and for front-page articles. Gritty players do what they do for one reason - the W. <BR/><BR/>PS: As for Ron "The Runt" Hunt's nickname, I'm thinking of something else? Anybody thinking the same?Timmyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01945502325199106635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20661624.post-85848550810901803512007-12-22T23:14:00.000-06:002007-12-22T23:14:00.000-06:00Fan-fucking-tastic post. <BR/><BR/>I couldn't believe the number of teams interested in signing the unbelievably shitt—er, <I>gritty</I> Eck this off-season.<BR/><BR/>Toronto "wins", which means the clubhouse attendant better head down to the Venezuelan Winter League to practice his stain-treating...Mr Furioushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03781439243585972721noreply@blogger.com